Lactose Intolerance: Are You Eating Too Much Dairy? Dr. Cabral & Thomas DeLauer

Lactose Intolerance: Are You Eating Too Much Dairy? Dr. Cabral & Thomas DeLauer

Lactose Intolerance: Are You Eating Too Much Dairy? Dr. Cabral & Thomas DeLauer

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so what is the deal with dairy okay when you’re on a low-carb diet or ketogenic diet or even when you’re fasting a lot of times people tend to bring a lot more dairy into their diet because it seems to be a little bit more satiating for them but what I want to discuss in this video and I brought dr. Stephen Cabral here with me is how dairy actually affects your body when it comes down to in tolerances yeah we always hear about lactose intolerance or we hear about maybe inflammation associated with dairy we don’t realize that there’s multiple different avenues in which dairy can be wreaking havoc on your body and I’m not here to say that dairy is totally bad or totally evil but there are a multitude of different things that could be occurring in your body so why don’t you introduce yourself real quick just everyone knows who you are I’m Stephen Brahm a board-certified naturopathic doctor and I specialize in Ayurvedic functional medicine and something called bio regulatory medicine so just like we were talking about right there when we’re talking about you know is the lactose or is it the protein or what’s going on in dairy we can actually clinically verify what’s going on with people’s bodies but we can also give them some of their symptoms as well like you’re experiencing this if this is going on in your body so yeah look forward to chatting about that today gotcha so so what we’re gonna do with this video is I’m gonna discuss a little bit more of sort of the the casein effect of dairy and kind of the protein effect and what’s happening in your body and then dr. Cooper all is gonna totally blow your mind with all his science of the fruit tins and the different proteins and everything like that stuff that I couldn’t bring you on my own so first off I’m just gonna touch briefly on the lactose side of things so if you have a lactose intolerance it’s a whole different ballgame some of the stuff we’re gonna talk about that one’s pretty simple you lack the enzyme or you have very minimal enzymes that really help break that down okay you’re not having an ability to actually digestive we break it down for one reason or another pretty simple pretty cut-and-dry that’s why people that have a lactose intolerance can usually take a lactase enzyme and not have as much of an issue but it does sort of warrant a further investigation that if we’re already missing an enzyme or we’re lacking in an enzyme breaks something down we might have more of a kind of bio individual necessity necessity to really have lactase coming in from other things which tells us that we’re not able to break down milk as an entirety not just in the digestive system right so it’s like if our digestive system is telling us you shouldn’t be having this then what is happening at a cellular level but what I want to discuss really quick is there’s something interesting as be cm7 in dari so BC m7 is a component of a particular casein protein those of you watching maybe you’ve heard of a to casein protein or maybe you’ve heard of a1 protein or maybe you just heard of casein protein like a lot of supplement companies will sell pure casein protein the the interesting thing is first of all casein is a very toxic protein it’s not something we should be consuming a lot of in fact it’s a very very very inflammatory so if you’re consuming just straight-up casein protein I highly recommend that you probably just throw it away or don’t use it or at least do some more investigation in it but what happened was way back when hundreds of years ago when we were actually first starting to utilize cattle for dairy there was a different structure of protein that was in them and it was known as a – protein so it was this different kind of case in that came from the dairy that functioned pretty well in our body we didn’t have too much of an issue but as evolution went on and as everything started to change and there are some genetic mutation and as these cows were being hybridized and bred differently it started to change and this protein went into what is now known as a one case in protein so that is what is the modern protein that’s what we’re seeing all the time and this protein is not easy to break down this is the protein that triggers an opioid effect in the body so dairy can actually be just as addictive gram for gram as heroin and some other street drugs pretty darn powerful it all has to do with that so I’m gonna leave it there I can touch on that a little bit more but I want to turn to you to be able to discuss you know some of the other things you were mentioning like fruit dens everything like that before yeah it seems to from the research and this is fairly recent that a1 cows based milk actually increases homeless cysteine in the body so not only is it creating kind of like the puffy look maybe to your body it’s in flaming your arteries that you can’t see so if you combine that with high cholesterol and high CRP that’s really a recipe for cardiovascular disease so really really detrimental I’m definitely in adults and especially in adult males but we’re talking about dairy what we’re talking about in the protein specifically casein makes them about 80 percent of the protein and just like you mentioned casein I remember back back in my day of you know more bodybuilding those types things like drink casein before bed it’s a slow time release well one of the reasons the slow time release is that so hard to break down by your body like you just do it gel yeah it’s not a good thing for the body at all and so like it’s great that you’re bringing that up because a lot of people don’t want to say that because casein is also extremely cheap to make so unlike whey is 20% of the protein in dairy casein is about 80% so there’s so much more gram for gram casein in approach in cow’s milk protein than wet so if we’re looking at it you if you can you know you can make the argument for whey protein and increasing immunoglobulins and all these different things but casein is not going to do that for you chasing is protein so I can’t I can’t say that it’s not but what happens is its inflammatory and it does cause what’s called an IgE or IgG based immune reaction so not on everyone but so the nice thing about of a clinical practice we’ve completed over a quarter of a million client appointments and in that we do a lot of lab testing so I run something called a food sensitivity test you can do it right at home literally you poke your finger and you put some blood drops on the card we do it for children and we do it for adults what we find is this is that the majority of people are sensitive from an IgG perspective to cow’s milk and now that here’s the interesting thing not goat’s milk not cheap but cow so we’re looking at a larger protein molecule a more inflammatory form of casein just like you said a one versus a two and that what the animals are fed matters as well but the bottom line is this whether you have you know leaky gut where these proteins can come through or your actual immune cells can go right into your intestines so what is happening to make this a little simpler is that your immune cells are actually attacking these protein strands when that happens it creates inflammation that inflammation if it’s an immediate reaction so it’s an IgE reaction it can show up as a headache brain fog itchiness hives red airs watery eyes especially in children you see watery eyes red ears kind of like the psoriasis on their on their face eczema I’ll tell you right now if you can eliminate one food even if you just think I’m like if you’re just so you’re suspecting that dairy might be an issue eliminate it for three to four weeks see if you do better on it my first recommendation is to run that lab to check because what happens is a lot of people are eating dairy right now they’re feeling fine but what happens is an IgG reaction is a 21 or to 72 hour later reaction that means it’s a latent response so a day or two after eating that that cow’s milk they’re actually getting the inflammation at that point the body just kind of looks puffy all over might feel a little bit more run down a little bit more inflamed some brain fog a little less energy and that’s more of an IgG versus IgE and then maybe in a moment we can also talk about the sugars and how that affects the body as well so and then IgG also if I’m not mistaken has a cumulative effect too so as you because it that’s the one that really so IgE essentially if you look at it and I want to say half-life is that’s not right but if you look at IgE as terms of like it’s affecting the body it’s rather acute like it happens fast which means it doesn’t have a whole lot of time to generate a feedback loop and create more whereas IgG like once you start creating inflammation then you’re creating all these other situations that are occurring in the body that are triggering more cytokines to do other things and trigger more inflammation so that’s the thing is with dairy it can be very tricky you know you can have a glass of milk let’s make a simple have a glass of milk and you may not get diarrhea and you may think I don’t have an issue with dairy there’s no problem at all so you continue to have another glass in another glass for a period of weeks and then all of a sudden you just start feeling generally sick and unwell like you just feel really lethargic and you feel really lame and you feel puffy like you said and you don’t know why you’re like well it can’t be the dairy because I’ve been doing that for three four weeks I feel fine well that’s what’s going on is you do have a cumulative effect and I will be the first to say so I started bringing back a little bit of and even happens with way now and then you because you still have dairy components I had recently brought back away into my diet temporarily because it’s like you know I want to try to you know maintain muscle mass a little bit more in a low-calorie way so I just or II just started doing this a few weeks ago and I was feeling great at the beginning again I was like oh cool maybe I can do way again maybe it’s not causing an issue you know two weeks ago start getting the effects again I start feeling it and if I wasn’t able to recognize it because I had gone through it before I probably wouldn’t have wondered if it was the way but I knew it was and then guess what I’m you know it took me it took me close to a week to eradicate those effects again so I mean what you’re saying is just totally dead on and all has to do with just the immune response that cascades and cumulatively builds up yeah be like if you get punched in the arm your arm can swell a little bit and that would be the IgE reaction but you leave your arm alone arrests it will rebuild and it will go back down but if every day you keep getting punched in the arm that tissue only becomes more inflamed it actually starts to die and you will not recover you won’t repair so that’s why you know you can’t always look at the first introduction the first introduction sometimes just Prime’s the immune system it’s the second time you put it in that you might have that reaction so the other interesting thing with Darien and you’re right like it can be way or it can be casing because they’re still balled protein so when we look at an immune based reaction we’re actually looking at the proteins we’re looking at the either IgE or IgE or there’s actually an IgA base response and we always test for the IgG because that’s the hard one like if you have a reaction two days later really hard to know all that nine meals you might have had over the last two to three days but an IgE we always say like well you know if you feel the brain fog the joint pain those types of things well that’s an immediate base reaction but here’s the other thing is that it’s not always the protein it’s not actually an immune based reaction so if you have dairy and we were talking about this in a previous video and you have Beck chill overgrowth like SIBO or you have candida overgrowth dairy actually even though we think of dairy is kind of like a fad and maybe a protein there’s carbs in there as well especially if we’re talking about it from cheese or milk or whatever it might be what happens is dairy contains something called fruit Daan’s as well as lactose so lactose we know about right lactose is that sugar that if you have an enzyme called lactase well it can help to break that down great but what happens is you don’t get away with removing all the fruit tins which can start to ferment in your intestines so that can cause the bloating and the gas so that’s why a lot of people if they’re taking lactaid tablets so they’re taking a lactase based enzyme they still have the bloating they still have the gas there’s an issue with their microbiome and that dairy is not doing them any favors so dairy is honestly one of the most cow’s milk dairy I want to qualify that cow’s milk dairy is honestly one of the most volatile foods that I’ve seen in my practice and if there’s only one food I could recommend removing just as even a trial it would be dairy without a doubt yeah no one there’s so many dairy alternatives to stays honestly if there’s no real reason to have to constantly be consuming dairy I mean true story it’s again with with my wife and our baby it’s amber had gotten food poisoning shortly after having the baby so her milk supply run out but it was it was limited and we’re like well no way we’re giving this kid formula but we fortunately were able to find a goat’s milk formula and so now not that he’s exclusively on formula but he has you know one or two bottles a day coming from goat milk formula and it was for that exact reason was the last thing we wanted to do was you know pump him full of just this immune response when he’s a newborn I mean just triggering his body to already start having them so I mean it’s interesting saying about goat milk because people always think goat milk still has lactose in it but lactose isn’t the issue generally speaking for sure we can get around the lactose thing that’s that’s like your body some first initial warning sign that’s step one of 500 things that go wrong with dairy but no that makes perfect sense and just circle it real quick back to the ketogenic diets I know a lot of my viewers are on the keto diet we talked in another video about how the gut microbiome tends to shrink when you’re on a ketogenic diet not good bad ugly neither none of them it’s just it happens to shrink because there’s less fuel for certain bacteria to grow so then what happens when people are on a ketogenic diet especially for a longer period of times I start getting bored and they start consuming copious amounts of dairy they have tons of cheese tons of heavy cream because it’s easy and it’s accessible and it just still tastes good and it gives them that kind of emotional response to food sure but what’s gonna happen is just like dr. Cabral mentioned yes now you are putting yourself in a situation where you are throwing off the gut balance very very easily because you have a smaller gut microbiome you have the propensity to be able to throw it awry very easily because you’re dealing with a smaller quantity as is so the impact of those fruit tins could be exponentially more powerful on a ketogenic diet than if you’re not on a ketogenic diet so I say this because you need to be extra careful on a ketogenic diet to not go totally start crazy and just start having all of your fats come from cheese because it’s going to be a big big problem later on and you might take a long time to end up having your gut and recover from that without a doubt so I mean and basically the bottom line is deer is a really poor food combiner so you can’t mix it with a lot of other foods or it doesn’t sit well in your stomach doesn’t digest well it has sugars that can ferment in your gut which again it is fine for some people as long as they have a balanced microbiome and it contains predominantly casein again you can get or casing or typically they have both inside of full fat dairy or full protein based dairy and that can be reactive to your immune system so if you’re dealing with any type of joint pain inflammatory issues brain fog skin rashes anything like that the simplest thing to do is is do a food sensitivity test or simply eliminate it from your diet for about three to four weeks it allows you to kind of empty that rain barrel as I say and you’ll see for yourself you actually be able to prove to yourself so kind of like forget about everything does it work for you yes or no and then you’ll be able to get that answer yep perfect and end it off with you said rain barrel your new book the rain barrel effects available on Amazon terrific read you guys gotta check it out if you’re interested in your health at all so doctor Cabral thank you for coming on my pleasure thanks for having me and as always any ideas for future videos you know where to put them see you soon

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Thomas DeLauer: So what is the deal with dairy? When you’re on a low-carb diet, a ketogenic diet, or even when you’re fasting, a lot of times people tend to bring a lot more dairy into their diet because it seems to be a little bit more satiating for them. But what I want to discuss in this video, and I brought Dr. Stephen Cabral here with me, is how dairy actually affects your body when it comes down to intolerances. We always hear about lactose intolerance or we hear about maybe inflammation associated with dairy. We don’t realize that there’s multiple different avenues in which dairy can be wreaking havoc on your body.

Now I’m not here to say that dairy is totally bad or totally evil, but there are a multitude of different things that could be occurring in your body. Why don’t you introduce yourself real quick, just so everyone knows who you are?

Stephen Cabral: I’m Stephen Cabral, I’m a board-certified naturopathic doctor and I specialize in Ayurvedic functional medicine and something called bio-regulatory medicine. Just like we were talking about right there, when we’re talking about, “Is it the lactose, or is it the protein or what’s going on in dairy?” We can actually clinically verify what’s going on with people’s bodies, but we can also give them some of their symptoms as well, like, “You’re experiencing this if this is going on in your body.” Yeah, I look forward to chatting about that today.

Thomas DeLauer: Gotcha. What we’re going to do with this video is I’m going to discuss a little bit more of the casein effect of dairy and kind of the protein effect and what’s happening in your body, and then Dr. Cabral is going to totally blow your mind with all his science of the fructans and the different proteins and everything like that, stuff that I couldn’t bring you on my own.

First off, I’m just going to touch briefly on the lactose side of things. If you have a lactose intolerance, it’s a whole different ballgame than some of the stuff where going to talk about. That one’s pretty simple. You lack the enzyme or you have very minimal enzymes that really help break that down. You’re not having the ability to actually digestively break it down for one reason or another. Pretty simple, pretty cut and dry, that’s why people that have a lactose intolerance can usually take a lactase enzyme and not have as much of an issue.

But it does sort of warrant a further investigation that if we’re already missing an enzyme or lacking in an enzyme to break something down, we might have more of a bio-individual necessity to really have lactase coming in from other things, which tells us that we’re not able to break down milk as an entirety, not just in the digestive system. It’s like if our digestive system is telling us you shouldn’t be having this, then what is happening is at a cellular level?

What I want to discuss really quick is there’s something interesting known as BCM7 in dairy. BCM7 is a component of a particular casein protein. Those of you watching, maybe you’ve heard of A2 casein protein, or maybe you’ve heard of A1 protein, or maybe you’ve just heard of casein protein like a lot of stuff from the companies will sell pure casein protein. The interesting thing is first of all, casein is a very toxic protein. It’s not something we should be consuming a lot of, in fact it’s very, very, very inflammatory.

If you’re consuming just straight up casein protein, I highly recommend that you probably just throw it away or don’t use it, or at least do some more investigation in it. But what happened was way back when, hundreds of years ago when we were actually first starting to utilize cattle for dairy, there was a different structure of protein that was in them and it was known as A2 protein, so it was this different kind of casein that came from the dairy that functioned pretty well in our body. We didn’t have too much of an issue. But as evolution went on and as everything started to change and there are some genetic mutation and as these cows were being hybridized and bred differently, it started to change and this protein went into what is now known as A1 casein protein. That is what is the modern protein, that’s what we’re seeing all the time.

This protein is not easy to break down. This is the protein that triggers an opioid effect in the body, so dairy can actually be just as addictive gram-for-gram as heroin and some other street drugs, pretty darn powerful, and it all has to do with that.

I’m going to leave it there, I can touch on that a little bit more, but I want to turn to you to be able to discuss some of the other things you were mentioning like fructans and everything like that before.

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