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[Music] you [Music] well hey everyone I’m excited to bring you an amazing guest professor sea free okay he’s the author of this book right here cancer as a metabolic disease this isn’t this is my new favorite book incredible you need a little bit of biochemistry to get through it but there’s a lot of parts that are really easy to understand and so professor Seyfried has taught and conducted research in the field of neurogenetics neural chemistry in cancer for more than 25 years at Yale University Boston College he’s published more than 150 scientific articles and book chapters and is on the editorial boards of nutrition and metabolism Journal of lipid research neuro chemical research and AAS and neuro so welcome and I really appreciate you spending some time talking with me today oh thanks Jarek it’s nice to be here absolutely I think it’s important to start out if we could on the the big idea here where and kind of if you could do it in laypersons language just to describe the difference between a normal cell and cancer so I think that’s important to just talk about that yeah well there are many differences the prime difference in my mind is the difference in the way the cells generate energy and all the cells in our body need to generate energy and otherwise they die you know I mean energy is energy so our whole body’s we breathe in oxygen and we give off co2 and produce water as byproducts of aerobic respiration and that’s the primary way that most of the cells in our bodies generate energy the tumor cell on the other hand pretty much functions without oxygen so in order to function without oxygen this is referred to as fermentation it’s a fermentation ancient pathway by which cells can generate energy without oxygen so all tumor cells as far as I can see and as far as looked at are more dependent on fermentation for energy than they are for respiration for energy using oxygen so this is why they live in hypoxic environments they can survive in these environments because they primarily ferment and when you ferment you’re become limited in in the types of fuels that you need because it oxidative phosphorylation respiration is an extremely efficient way to generate ATP energy you need a little bit of material like glucose or some other fat or whatever and you can generate large amounts of energy just from respiration but if you don’t respire the fermentation pathways are less efficient therefore the substrates have to be present in large amounts so the tumor cell is dependent on large amounts of glucose and large amounts of glutamine and those are the two front primary fermentable fuels so the differences between a normal cell and a cancer cell is primarily the way they generate energy the tumour cell needs to ferments the normal cells can respond got it and can you touch on the origin of cancer because I think mainstream research is really focused on this genetic piece but they’re not getting into the metabolic or the damage to the mitochondria can you touch on that well I mean that’s the oncogenic paradox excuse me basically cancer can be caused by many different insults to our body carcinogens you know people people look at that and they say well that’s why we call something a carcinogen because it has the potential to cause cancer in laboratory animals and humans you know radiation causes cancer viruses cause cancer so the question is how are these how are these provocative agents causing cancer the gene theory says that the carcinogen will cause mutations and the mutations then lead to dysregulated cell growth so you have to say what is the primary characteristic of tumor and it is dysregulated cell growth so how does a cell under normal conditions become dysregulated in its growth so a cut for example a carcinogen is thought to cause a type of mutation which will then cause the tumor cell to become growth unrestricted and and if you look at radiation is thought to cause mutations some viruses are thought to cause mutations and these mutations were thought to be the cause of the cancer however every one of those same provocative agents also damages the mitochondria in the cell the very organelle needed for normal respiration now what happens is a carcinogen will enter into the mitochondria leading to the formation of Ross reactive oxygen species which are carcinogens and mutagens so what happens that mitochondria produces Ross which then causes the mutations so the mutations are an effect of the damage to the respiration not the cause of the cancer the cancer and the mutations are both effects of the damage to the respiration so this changes the whole game as to what the nature of this disease is and we went through and documented very carefully all of the different agents that cause cancer and every one of them damaged first damages the respiration leading to Ross leading to the mutations so this whole concept of mutations is mostly nonsense it’s absolutely a misdirected effort which is a and the tragic consequence is over 1,600 people a day are dying from cancer as the result of this tragic misunderstanding of the nature of the disease Wow so um have you ever done any research or heard about research being done using something like I’m ip6 phytic acid as a powerful antioxidant to counter some of the free radical damage uh well that’s more it would be low in line of prevention so you know these if you can prevent free radical damage to your mitochondria you’re going to prevent cancer cancer does not start not with normal mitochondria so things that would reducing reactive oxygen species or inflammation or things like this would all be important in preventing the disease but once the disease starts you have an altogether different strategy that’s needed are their microscopic cancer cells and in pretty much everyone is there any date on them um you know I I’m not sure about that I mean most healthy tissues you don’t see cancer cells you know you only see cancer cells when they become enough to see you know make they make these statements you know we all have cancer yeah we all those cells are usually destroyed you know and taken care of what we we turnover ourselves all the time you know when a cell gets damaged it’s turned over I mean we have a we have a maintenance system they would turn over the cells a cancer cell it would be a sale that would not be turned over now do we have precancerous lesions I think if we have focal inflammatory sections we would have certain these are referred to often times as polyps or something along these lines you know small growths and things but they’re generally benign they’re not they’re not of the of a more invasive malignant characteristic so I guess you can say that we probably have these things but it’s only when the tumor cell begins to invade the local environment and proliferate that we have an issue got it so so discuss to some other research and you talked about in some of the other videos using ketogenic in a minute fasting and also Don and maybe you can define that well Don is a is a glutamine analog it’s um I can oh I can always I don’t have the thing that the structure memorized but it’s six a zone or leucine and the the in acronyms of course is Don D om what this is a glutamine targeting drug we have not found any drug more powerful than Don at this point people because it cancer needs to needs the two fuels glucose and glutamine so basically the ketogenic diet is targeting your glucose and shifting the whole body off the ketones tumor cells can’t use ketones because you need a good mitochondria and if people say cancers use ketones that would mean they have a normal mitochondrion they wouldn’t be cancer in the first place so you find a lot of misinformation and misunderstanding on a part of a significant number of scientists by the way but still are confused by this so it’s not just the lay public they dependent on the scientists who themselves are also confused many of them not all of them about these issues so the tumor cell needs glutamine and glucose some tumors are more dependent on glucose than glutamine some are more dependent on glutamine than glucose many of them need both glucose and glutamine so it’s one of these kinds of things but if you take away both glucose and glutamine I don’t know if any tumor cell none of that none that we have ever found can survive without there two key from edible fuels so Don is one of the drugs that targets and and takes away the glutamine whereas the ketogenic diet takes away the glucose so together these two work synergistically together and would be effective in my mind of probably managing the vast majority of all types of cancers the the question is you know there’s not a single Hospital Cancer Research Center anywhere in the world that’s doing this so this is the reason why we have sixteen hundred people a day dying from a disease it’s just becomes clear ya know you’re not doing the right things if you did the right thing she wouldn’t have what these people would be alive right and what kind of thumb some success have you seen on these experiments that you I watched another video that you’re you’re combining these three strategies and getting some pretty good amazing major effects yeah we are and when we do it and we haven’t really you know if you go back in the literature look at dawn with patients there some people did really well and some people didn’t do so well and none of them none of the previous studies ever targeted glutamine simultaneously with targeting glucose with glutamine and glucose oh so people use ketogenic diets and think you’re gonna cure cancer with the ketogenic diet not if it’s a glutamine dependent tuber you’re not so so people have to realize that it’s you got if you don’t hit both both fuels simultaneously and they always say well the cancer those are smart they’re not smart and they adapt they don’t adapt they’re they’re just using the fuels that are inviting the environment and if you don’t take the fuels away from the environment it’s going to look like they’re adapting and it’s going to look like they’re smart but they’re not so they’re very they’re they’re dependent on two fuels and a vote if they have access to those fuels they will survive if the fuels are taken away they will not survive it’s not a complicated problem it’s just that when you’re chasing jeans and you think cancer is a genetic disease you don’t think about any of this stuff right they tell me that’s just that no where are you looking you know so it’s not a you know when we do in our preclinical systems which are the best there are because we developed the real models for representing real cancer it’s very hard to kill these in the mouse but when we when we combine the two strategies together we’re getting great success and and we are targeting glutamine in patients not with Don yet because it’s not available in sufficient quantities people don’t have to use it a lot of clinicians are concerned about this or that but you know it’s less toxic than most of the stuff they’re already giving these poor cancer patients so so you know what’s going to happen I mean we’re working with clinical groups and oncology groups in different countries which are more open to trying these kinds of things and and and we are achieving great success in a number of patients for all kinds of cancers because cancer is one disease it’s all the same whether you have a lymphoma a brain tumor a colon tumor a breast tumor a bladder tumor it’s all the same they ferment it’s such a simple it’s it’s I mean it’s just like you can you can kill the whole group of them just by knowing how to use one tool so yeah it’s astonishing and who’s doing this nobody only because people don’t understand go down to the top oncology clinics and tell them what I just told you and they look at like your inhaler they wouldn’t know what it’s not but it’s not that bleh people understand this better than the guy actually treating the disease yeah it’s really it’s hard to teach people who know it all or at least think they know it all know it all how come we have sixteen hundred people a day dying I mean obviously they have a lot of fixed ideas yeah and and the tragic consequences is all these poor people suffering and dying that’s the consequences of the lack of knowledge it really is so you said there’s not there’s I think there’s several clinical studies going on right now using these strategies around the world well I wouldn’t call them clinical studies I would all them patients being treated all right so because you know my colleagues are overwhelmed with patients who have all kinds of cancers and we they I’m not a physician but they could salt with me and we design strategies and the patients are doing well now are they part of it what we call a clinical trial where it would be set up as if we were testing a new drug no the answer is No are we getting survivors that are looking pretty healthy the answer is yes so how would we do a clinical trial well first of all you have to have people that understand how to do the procedure and second of all you have to go against the standard of care which doesn’t allow you to do this because it’s not appropriately designed in the light of what what the standard procedures are so when they say we’re going to do a clinical trial only after you do radiation and chemo therapies are your let’s say the whole thing is just doesn’t work and you know the pharmaceutical companies and the top medical schools have designed procedures where double-blind crossovers are used which are the strategy for a single drug looking at some particular one thing we’re using diets we’re using combinations of drugs and procedures cocktails you know all done in different doses timing and scheduling the ultimate goals can you keep this guy alive right healthy is he not sick I mean these are the endpoints you know and this doesn’t fit with the current standards of what you’re considered a clinical trial so this is blocked right from the beginning so so what you want to do is how many people can we write up as case reports people that should be dead that are still alive without hair loss without sickness without any of these kinds of things and keep publishing these papers and this is what we do and eventually somebody’s gonna say I want to do that right right yeah there’s just probably not a lot of money in this because um I mean it’s it’s I mean there’s a lot of money in medication but there’s not a probably a lot of funding and this is pretty good funding yeah well you can’t you know what do you you know you get a lot of money to study cancer and you get a lot of money to treat the disease but you don’t get much money if you’re attempting to resolve it so you know we’re in the resolution business and every person that walks longer on the planet than they should have been is a success in itself so we’re interested more in these survivors these longer so-called rare long-term survivors that you should not see like for glioblastoma Adriatic cancer and these kinds of things advanced lung and breast metastatic breast cancer I mean if you keep people alive on a regular basis far longer than they should have been then you know you know you’re on the right path now what we do here at Boston College is we ferret out the mechanisms by which this works so this then fought your falling back on hard science your not falling back on you know some some mysterious unknown thing so we characterize the molecular mechanisms by which all this works then we go into the it’s funny because all these companies they use these preclinical models and most of the time it doesn’t work when you get something that works in a preclinical model well that’s only a mouse so you have to show it works in humans in fact the humans do better than the mice so so how many more of these patients and publications yeah we’re working on this my friends bring me the data to who work in the clinics and we sit down and we write up the case reports and we publish them and they get a lot of recognition but you know they’re the problem is you can’t Institute this yet at the top medical schools because it goes against the standards of care you have to change your standard of care which means you got to print primarily get rid of radiation and primarily get rid of toxic chemo and and those two are going away anytime soon I see the problem it’s clear it’s clear so but you know revenue generation you know we use hyperbaric oxygen you know the some of the we some of my colleagues use the lowest of the low dose chemo only they have to you know we really don’t need to use that but you know there’s other ways you can probably generate revenue I’m not into the generation revenue business I’m just into the business of snowing is the quiz this is the therapeutic strategy effective does it work and and and do we have evidence to support that and what is the science behind it that’s my job okay so I can show that it works in this baseline is solid scientific background then it becomes it becomes unconscionable not to use it right exactly I agree now in your book you mentioned this chairman I’ve never heard about it before in inflammatory unko taxes which basically is interesting because well maybe you can just talk about it well in it this is a provocation of a of a somewhat semi malignant state so it the the the inflammatory micro environment will stimulate tumor cells or incipient tumor cells to move and we we have this and it’s wound you know the words you can what we have shown and others have shown that the metastatic cancer cell is actually part of our immune system it’s a macrophage a macrophage is one of the cells in our bodies it’s a very it’s a very important cell for killing bacteria repairing wounds and this kind of thing so these cells are like the toughest cell in our body they can survive in hypoxic environments they they they’re a real a real tough sell these cells fused with some of these other kinds of I would say not benign stem kind of cells that don’t have the capacity to move around your body and and they they form these micro environments that cause fusion hybridization now you have a Mac I took myself that has the capacity to spread through your whole body based on the on the genetic behavior of the macrophage so does it morph into a macro fibers then kind of just experiencing it seems to be some sort of a hybrid condition where the the cancer stem cell which doesn’t have the capacity to metastasize fuses with a normal and then they become this hybrid cell now the hybrid cell of course has damaged respiration so you have a cell that’s a that’s dysregulated in its growth but also has the capacity to spread around the body so so and these cells home in on wounds and are provoked by by different kinds of micro environments so the the example one of the examples we use for inflammatory ANCA taxes is when people take needle biopsies of cancer cancer tissues like in breast for example you know they always say well let’s do a needle biopsy on this person’s breast to him or to characterize the genetic mutations that might be there right so what they do is they take a needle biopsy of a potentially benign growth which then forms a inflammatory on coat axis situation leading to the the spread of a previously benign tumor into a malignant tumor by the very fact that you took that to test it to see what kind of cancer it might be right so this poor woman who may have had a benign tumor now has a malignant tumor just because some guy wants to look at the gene mutations in the tumor which would mean absolutely nothing anyway so you put this person at terrible risk you know it doesn’t happen all the time but it happens significantly enough that there’s it publications on this not only for they do but needle biopsies and a lot of different kinds of tumors and this is what happens so you put the person at risk by spreading the tumor when it wasn’t necessary to spread in the first place this is one of the reasons why they they get rid of the Morse elation procedure for removing uterine polyps and females right so this was the Johnson and Johnson machine that would be grind up your uterine polyps and suck it up and there were physicians from Harvard a young lady a physician herself that metastatic uterine cancer and died from the Morse elation procedure and then they found out that this was common and not common it happened significantly enough to know that there was a real problem well this is all an example of inflammatory anka taxes you’re stabbing you’re stabbing a beehive and you don’t want the bees to come out right see the best thing to do is use metabolic therapy shrink it down into a tiny little thing and then surgically to bulken so you never stick it with anything you just get rid of it so once you understand the biology of the disease you’ll realize that most of what we do in the cancer field would never be should never be done so and this it comes back to the lack of knowledge on the biology of the disease so once you understand the biology you know certain things you should never do and yet they go by and say so basically what what he’s talking about guys is that cancer tends to invade areas of inflammation and mechanical injury right yeah yeah you can injure its cause it’s called the investigator by investigating you provoke and it’s inflammatory onco taxes leading to the spread of the disease so you know you don’t want to do that but yeah here’s the situation you get the insurance companies will pay seven thousand two hundred dollars to have you get a full readout of the gene mutations in your tumor so there’s a there’s an if there’s a financial incentive to take a needle by option by huh just to see the mutations which I say said mean nothing anyway so so but you put that you potentially can put a patient at risk for spreading the disease by analyzing information that’s largely worthless Wow Wow yeah because even in my clinic and I just noticed I’ve observed when people with cancer they usually always had a pre-existing injury like I had a guy fell on his back of his neck on the brain stem he developed cancer on the brain stem another person got hit with a baseball and the breast she got cancer on that location it sounded interesting that there’s this correlation between values sometimes there are reports that if you have an incipient metastatic lesion in your body and you get a wound in another part of your body the tumor cells will move from from one side over to the wound site wow that was also reported for people who had tooth extraction because if you take an extracted tooth you create a great big wound in your gum and tumor cells like from from a lung and in small lung metastases is because it’s a macrophage macrophages do this so it all comes back to what what the biology of the metastatic cell is and you know it’s a macrophage you say what do they eat well they they’re heavily glutamine dependent so you just take away their glutamine so once you know the biology of the of the thing there’s so many easy ways to kill these cells Wow I think it’s hard to have more glutamine in a diet because it’s an almost every food dude yeah you can’t you can’t you have to use drugs and that’s why we used on and EGCG the green tea extract which means you know we’re still looking into that possibly chloroquine there are a number of other drugs that could be used that would be specifically targeting the tumor cell but we’re not harming the normal cells Wow Wow on your website I think then the website that you have there’s a place where people can actually donate as well to the Boston College right specifically to research yeah we have the Boston College Cancer Fund in my name we also have a lot of people donating to Travis Kristofferson’s metabolic therapy it used to be called the single cause single cure foundation he set that foundation up to support our work 100% of the 100 100% of the money he raises goes to the research not not 90% a hundred percent I think that’s that’s what I was gonna ask you because I mean with all this cancer breast research I mean it’s really if you would get hardly anything so this is really good news well you know you know it’s very interesting we get a lot of small donations sometimes you know people will throw in bigger amounts but you know and most of the people that contact me are people that that don’t have a lot of means the people with great insurance policies and who are who are people of means they go to the top medical schools the top cancer reads research centers to get treated which is like so the people that are survived will be the people the people who have don’t have money means basically the poor people would be the ones that will survive cancer right right than the rich people you know because what we what we do is that we target the basic biology the the tragedy is right now is that the we have enough physicians that are trained to do this so there’s a huge gap in how and what we understand and in the actual procedures to treat the patients and this is where the tragedy is I think because because the poor the physicians and the medical schools are never trained to understand cancer as a metabolic disease you know they’ve been they’ve been indoctrinated by the gene theory and they think they’re for radiation and chemo become a logical approach to managing the disease but once you understand that this is not the nature of the disease then all that stuff makes no sense it harms the patient right that causes tremendous grief strategy I mean it really it really puts now of course there’s many cancer patients that survive standards of care but their bodies have been beat up and they take tremendous risk and putting themselves at risk for other kinds of maladies in the future yes so so so so basically we raised money through these private founded Travis’s Kristofferson’s private foundation basically and through Boston College our own University a web page and they at even on my Boston College preview page there’s ways that people can donate to the unit to the University that way as well I’m gonna put some links down below because I know a lot of people want to donate to this what one of the success rates of the cancer therapies that are going on right now I know it’s not great as far as I don’t know what they define as being successful but um yeah well the top you know you hear all the news right now is the immunotherapies you know katroo de a Devo the newest one is the cart cart T you know immunotherapy where it’s just beyond my comprehension that now why anybody would would do stuff like this I mean it’s just very complicated very risky very very very expensive you know patients they take your T cells for lymphomas and they and they genetically engineer your teeth T cells at a different site and then you put those genetic engineered T cells are now supposed to target and track down the cancer cells in your body and then your body has to be purged of any of its regular T cells and it’s it’s just I call these kinds of therapies Rube Goldberg machines they’re they’re very very complicated ways of doing something very simple you know the goal is trying to track and kill tumor cells using immunotherapy and these immunotherapy sometimes can be a go wild on you they could start attacking your normal organs you know it’s like letting a pack of wild dogs loose you know so they could sometimes turn on you and you know there are success stories I mean there certainly are success but there’s just an equal number of tragedies and deaths I mean why would you ever want to treat a patient with something that has the possibility of harming or killing him it should not be a part of the equation at all exactly totally insane it’s insane and especially when all you have to do is take away glucose and glutamine yeah and especially these lymphomas these you know these diffusion you sell them some and they’re all dependent on glutamate so all you have to is target glutamate why are we doing this I think it’s too simple that’s the problem it’s just that’s the truth it is too simple and only BAE it’s simple because you have been indoctrinated to think cancer is an extremely complicated disease yeah Lee then you chase complication with more complication and and and you create these incredibly expensive and complicated immuno therapeutic procedures but all you have to do is take away glucose and Lou to me you know because and then they’ll say well that’s not proven what do you mean is that proven there’s a thousand articles in the literature proving what I just said is you choose to ignore it exactly you know yeah what I’m saying is there’s thousands of articles in the scientific literature supporting what I’m saying yeah you have I mean this this book is I don’t know how long it took you to write this but this is quite an amazing but you have all the armed arguments against the theory and you just go right through and just you know explain their missing data it’s false to have it read it there so there’s just so much great data in here I’m just totally impressed yeah I took a while to write it you know but at some point in your life when you have collected enough data to say there’s something seriously wrong here and Otto Warburg was really the guy who who started this back in the 1920s and he clearly defined what the origin of the disease was which was damage to the mitochondrial respiration the problem is he didn’t have all of the other aspects of this there were some missing parts to his argument and those few missing parts led to the idea that he was wrong he wasn’t wrong he was spot-on it’s just that he did not have all of the new evidence that we now have – salud mate yeah he did not know about glutamine amino acid fermentation he just knew about glucose fermentation so so he didn’t know the other half and that’s why people think he was wrong he wasn’t wrong he was right he just didn’t have all the parts to the puzzle so we have now filled in those gaps and we know that he was right and now the disease can be managed in a much more less toxic in a more effective manner it’s just that right now we’ve built a massive industry around this cancer thinking that we have to treat these patients with all this expensive toxic stuff and and you don’t really need to do that and then when somebody comes along like me to tell them that hey you’re on the wrong path they’re going to find every thousand reasons why I’m wrong and and the answer is I’m basing it on thousands of scientific articles published in the top research journals in the world we check out right in this book yeah it’s holistic and there’s many many more you know it’s coming they’re coming out all the time so it’s very very interesting and the cancer research industry many people have have found that glucose and glutamine are primary thing what they don’t do is they don’t they don’t take that and bring it to the clinic so and the clinicians who are treating with radiation chemo can’t believe that you can treat your cancer in such a short I want to say sure but you can certainly manage it we don’t know about curing I don’t like to use the word cure because we don’t really know but if you’re alive far longer than you were predicted to be I don’t want to say you’re cured you’re certainly long term managed and isn’t that the goal yeah and I think even even you mentioned in some of the my studies there’s was it 14 or 15 days you saw you saw some significant changes with cancer being destroyed right yeah oh absolutely I mean we’re hunting now we’ve got some of the finest pathologists on the planet hunting for surviving cancer cells and the tissues so so you know we’re looking you know we’ve killed sometimes it’s so hard and when you look at it up a tissue that’s been treated with metabolic therapy I mean it’s just a slaughter these tumor cells are dead and dying everywhere so and we and sometimes you get so overwhelmed and say wow look at the mass death but there any is there anybody live in that population that we should be concerned about not right we’re trying to find we’re trying to find the needle in the haystack the life that made it through the metabolic therapy so and that’s where we are wearing now and I’m working with colleagues in Venezuela who are just superb pathologists the best I’ve ever seen and we’re really hunting down to see if we can find any cell that can survive this metabolic therapy Wow yeah not singe because if you can’t if you can’t find that that would mean that this is a hundred percent I mean it’s it’s the way I can’t say that for sure so we can’t say that every single cell because you know we found that some of these macrophage kinds of cells they also can phagocytize in dead cells so they can get their glucose and glutamine by eating a dead cell that was killed Wow that’s why we have to go after they’re lysosomes which are their internal stomach and you put in antacids so they can’t digest what they just ate so way once you understand the biology you can really get excited on the numerous ways you can kill these cancer cells without harming the rest of the body so it’s going to be very exciting once the once the medical field comes to know how how to do this it’s gonna be you know wow you know here’s a new patient let’s see how many ways we can kill his cancer cells and keep them healthy and he’s holes what we’re finding as many of these cancer patients have all kinds of other metabolic maladies they have high triglycerides they’ve got type 2 diabetes they’ve got all kinds of other issues well that goes away when you’re killing the tumor cells so one of them so these patients get much healthier and they have and their cancer is managed so it’s a it’s a strategy that works on multiple different fronts Wow is there is there any clinics now that are doing I mean existing doing some of this the main one is in Istanbul Turkey where where dr. Burkhardt also read my book and he realized that we need to do something different and they then developed the chemo therapy assisted metabolic therapy where they’re using very very low doses of chemo just barely within the ramp within the guidelines of standard of care and then doing metabolic therapy which includes insulin potentiation hyperbaric oxygen ketogenic diets this kind of thing and they’re getting some expect Acula results on all kinds of-of stage four they only do stage 4 metastatic cancers now you know and they’re doing they’re getting results on menu during cancer ovarian advanced breast pancreatic cancer and then my colleagues in in Egypt Alexandria are using an NGO blastoma so they’re getting pretty good results on glioblastoma that’s one of the most aggressive brain tumors right it used to be not anymore anymore so you know so if you know what you’re doing and you know how to do it many of these Excel called terminal cancers may no longer be terminal and but you know the problem is so many people come to me after having failed radiation and chemo immunotherapy whatever they’re throwing at you and by that time your whole body is so beat up yeah and so destroyed sometimes they can’t rally you can’t get your normal cells to rally to destroy the tumor cells because you have been so compromised by an inefficient treatment strategy and there’s a tragedy right there so on the other hand there are some people who I’ve been beat up to hell I can’t believe that they’re still walking who have been rescued from this so I’ve seen it all I mean we’ve seen one or another we don’t rescue everyone but if we hit these guys that put up front with the metabolic therapy I think we probably get an 80 to 85 to 90% management rate without toxicity so when people and nobody can believe this they say well this can’t be but why why can’t you believe it you’re right iein typical inertia was inadequate now we read it and we understand it and we see it when we do it right so it’s not just preclinical my preclinical system is designed to help the physicians in the clinic use the right dosage timing and strategies on their patients so it’s a kind of a we’re one of the few groups that actually does translational research where we take research from the mice and put it directly into the human so you talk the talk they don’t walk the walk right yeah we do do you find that if um if you had a lot more money could you do a lot more research I mean is is that lacking right now is there yeah that’s absolutely right I mean obviously you know we’re working with undergraduates and part-time professionals and we could streamline this whole thing 10 times faster if we had more research you know when we apply for research grants at the NIH they’re always asking you know what gene is involved you know how what are you it’s irrelevant you know so uh and it’s not their fault because the guy sitting on the study section all are interested in supporting their own research and and they’re all looking at different drugs and and genes and this kind of thing and so it’s very hard to bring eye used to have a lot of money from the NIH when I wasn’t trying to cure the disease as soon as you mentioned that you had something that will work oh all the research all the money stops oh then we become dependent on private foundations and that the goodness of others that want to support this you know they have a family member or something like this but you know we can bring this and and and my colleagues that are in Istanbul and they’re overwhelmed at being trampled by the number of patients that are coming into their clinics they they don’t have the time that they would like to have and they’re also under the gun by their own their their their own colleagues are angry because it’s just like having something that’s you know you’re taking away all my patients now they’re all one oh they’re all want to go to your your side of the clinic and not my side of the clinic and and and you know and we’re seeing more and more of this so everybody doing this is is threatening a system an entire industry that’s failed and we have we and we know because I wouldn’t speak like this if I hadn’t seen the results myself so and the mice but yeah but we you know as I said in our press Paul’s paper which was we published with a couple of physicians myself Joe maroon is that they’re a surgeon at University of Pittsburgh and team surgeon for the Pittsburgh Steelers he’s with us on this you know dr. George you he’s an oncologist Don D’Agostino my colleague who does hyperbaric oxygen you know we’re publishing these papers but to really to really get to the heart we there are so many new drugs that we can combine for metabolic therapy with ketogenic diets you know you see more and more people wanting to do this but you know the knowledge base that we have is greater than anyone elses because we’ve been doing it before anyone else did it right so you know we’ve been doing this for almost 20 years now but we’re just learning how many new combinations non-toxic combinations that we could put together to resolve cancer but we need the research money to do this and we want to show we want to find a tumor somewhere that doesn’t respond to metabolic therapy and we haven’t found this yet so if we can show that every major cancer is demolished then what more evidence the what but what do we have to do right yeah because there’s always this wild variable that well we can’t understand this one certain thing that doesn’t respond well if you can solve that that so far we haven’t found that one thing it’s just like because it’s so it’s based so clearly on what the underlying mega problem is and and then we have new now dawn is probably called a miracle drug and they don’t want to use it because they said it was too toxic but we we now have evidence that when you combine with ketogenic diet diet the toxicity is significantly reduced Wow oh we have a miracle drug and we just have to prove that it’s miracle for every kind of cancer that exists that’s all okay good so you need money to do that because you have to it’s all labor intensive because when you’re doing Mouse work the mice are very very expensive and the labor to do the research is expensive so but expensive relative to what card therapy right which four hundred thousand dollars a patient Oh insane well usually you know things that really work are simple so I’m just blown away yeah well you know as I said if you collect questions because a lot of people have many many kinds of questions not only about the science but about the direct applicability of this and and you will hear a lot of questions like Oh what about kekkai listen I’ve had gotten almost every kind of a question from every kind of a physician from every kind of a science researcher you know how do you explain this how do you explain that hey explain this and we go through and give them explanation it’s not always something that comes along we can’t explain but then I throw my army of students on top of it and you know within a few months we have an explanation for it so but generally we can address because we already have addressed most of the concerns yeah it’s actually all right in here it’s like you really explain well this we’ve we’ve put on new we’ve actually have stronger evidence before some of the things that that the beginning which wasn’t completely clear we even have it more clarified now Wow you know it’s it’s an emerging it’s an emerging field it’s gonna be the new field metabolic therapies yeah this is really exciting very exciting and Indies you know those guys there and they’re the best strategist because they love to take bloodwork they love to do this they love to do that a lot of the MDS don’t do this kind of stuff and you know it’ll open up cancer treatment to a whole group of other people that can actually facilitate the treatment if we get rid of these toxic drugs and radiation you don’t have to be going to a hospital naturopathic Doc’s yeah and the guys they seem to be more into looking all the bloodwork and things like this and I’ve learned things from them so they’ve showed me things that I didn’t know before based on their treatment of patients with ketogenic diets like I elevated vitamin D levels coming as them as the as the fad is dissolve vitamin D is released back into the blood you start getting elevated vitamin D when you you don’t need to supplement as much anymore so there’s a lot of new things that are coming up as the result of all this yeah so it’s gonna be exciting I you know it’s just that it’s frustrating because because the field doesn’t know it or doesn’t want to know about it but it’s exciting to know that you have a real strategy for the future oh my gosh that’s what’s nice to know this is mind blowing this is actually very very exciting I mean wow I had all these questions now they’re they’re gone you answered them very well I really appreciate you spending the time to educate us on this incredible piece of observation and knowledge and research and I’m gonna put some links down below and I definitely want in the future to do some updates I see where this is going and it’s all very very exciting so I want to thank you for the interview and I really appreciate what you’re doing so much oh thank you Eric nice to have your support Thanks absolutely
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Well, hey everyone! I’m excited to bring you an amazing guest, Professor Seyfried. His the author of this book right here (as a Metabolic Disease). This is my new favorite book, incredible. You need to a little bit of biochemistry to get through it but there’s a lot parts that are really easy to understand. Professor Seyfried has taught and conduct a research in this field of neurogenetics, neurochemistry for more than 25 years at Yale University whilst in college. He’s published more than a 150 scientific articles and book chapters and has an editorial boards of nutritional metabolism, journal of lipid research, neurochemical research and ASN neuro. So, welcome and I really appreciate you spending some time talking with me today.
Professor Seyfried: Thanks Eric, it’s nice to be here.
Dr. Eric Berg: Absolutely. I think it is important to start out if we could on the big idea here if you could do it in layperson’s language just describe the difference between a normal cell and damaged cell. I think it is important to just talk about that.
Professor Seyfried: Yeah, well. There are many differences, the prime difference in my mind is the difference in the way the cells generate energy and all the cells in our body needs to generate energy, and otherwise they die. I mean, energy is energy. So our whole bodies, we breathe in oxygen and we give off CO2 and produce water as byproducts of aerobic respiration and that is the primary way that most of the cells in our bodies generate energy. The tumor cells on the other hand pretty much functions without oxygen. So in order to function without oxygen, this is referred to as fermentation, ancient pathway by which cells can generate energy without oxygen. All tumor cells as far as I can see and as far as I’ve looked at are more dependent on fermentation for energy than they are for respiration for energy using the oxygen. So this is why they live in high toxic environments they can survive in this environment because they can primarily ferment. And when you ferment, you become limited in the types of fuel that you need.
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